A Friend of Medjugorje discusses what Medjugorje visionary Ivan has learned from Our Lady regarding: parenting, healing a common disease, what to be doing right now that will be critical in the future, and more. A must-listen to for those seeking answers and wanting to act.
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"No
one can serve two masters. He will either hate the one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You
cannot serve God and mammon. Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your
life-- what you shall eat or drink-- or about your body-- what you will wear.
Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing?
"Look at the birds in the sky. They do not sow or
reap. They gather nothing into barns, yet your Heavenly Father feeds them. Are
not you more important than they? Can any of you, by worrying, add a single
moment to your life span?
"Why are you anxious about clothes? Learn from
the way the wildflowers grow. They do not work or spin. But I tell you that not
even Solomon in all his splendour was clothed like one of them. If God so
clothes the grass of the field, which grows today and is thrown into the oven
tomorrow, will He not much more provide for you, oh you of little faith?
"So do not worry and say, what are we to eat? Or
what shall we drink? Or what are we to wear? All these things the pagans seek.
Your Heavenly Father knows that you need them all.
"But seek first the Kingdom of God and His
righteousness, and all these things will be given you besides. Do not worry
about tomorrow. Tomorrow will take care of itself. Sufficient for a day is its
own evil."
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[A
FRIEND OF MEDJUGORJE]
He
died in 465 BC, a great philosopher. His name was Heraclitus. What he said
2,400 years ago is relayed to us in this term. Quote, Time is like a river. You cannot touch the water twice, because the
flow that has passed will never pass again.
We
can relate this to the time of Our Lady and Her apparitions. This is never
coming back. Its unrepeatable. Its irreplaceable. What does that mean? It
means what Our Lady said, These are the
last apparitions on earth. Afterwards, I will not come back to the world
again. Why? Because were receiving everything we need to enter into the
time and to survive the anti-Christ system and Jesus coming back.
And
so, Our Lady is here to do something. Ivan was asked the question, What can we do to be healed? And Ivan
responds, Follow the Blessed Mothers
messages. Thats what Shes giving us. Something we never have had before.
Ivan was asked another question following that answer, quote, Are you part of a prayer group, Ivan?
He responds, Yes. He receives
another question. Does the Blessed
Mother prefer everyone to be part of a prayer group? Ivan says, She wants prayer groups not only here but
throughout the whole world. Hes asked, Why? He responds, It is
through prayer groups that we come to know God. There is much power in group
prayer.
So,
Ivan is asked the question, How does a
prayer group begin? It is a long procedure. It takes time to prepare the
conditions for the establishment of a prayer group. The leader of the prayer
group is very important. Without a good leader, the prayer group will fall
apart. And we have had many, many prayer groups
crash, fall apart, start following the wrong people, competition. Somebody
starts hearing the Virgin Mary. They start following that one, and then
another.
We
had 1,500 prayer groups in the 90s. All of them were divided. Almost all of
them fell apart. They didnt have the cognition to understand how to do that.
Caritas really is just a prayer group. I started it with my family. Others came
and joined. We have people following our prayer group. You might say well,
were a glorified prayer group. You heard Ivan already say, This is what needs to happen to be healed.
A lot of people tell us, testify, Im
healed. Im converted. Im changing my life.
So,
Ivans answer on how his prayer group began, he continues, after saying, Without a good leader, the prayer group
will fall apart. In my prayer group, the leader is the Blessed Mother.
Thats a big, big chief prayer group, right there. Can you imagine the Queen of
Peace coming down and is the leader of a prayer group for mortal people on the
earth?
Ivan
continues, Im just a coordinator
between the Blessed Mother. So, Shes a leader of the prayer group in
Medjugorje, and hes the coordinator. So, continuing, repeating this last
sentence, I am just a coordinator
between the Blessed Mother and the other members. Also
the prayer group should have a definite goal. The members should have a reason
to meet and pray and fast for. Hes asked the question, Does your prayer group have a goal? Yes,
Ivan says. The goal in my prayer group
is to help the Blessed Mother to achieve Gods plans. We do this through living
the Blessed Mothers messages and encouraging others to live the messages.
Then
Ivan is asked this question, What is
Gods plan for which the Blessed Mother asks your prayer group to meet and pray
and fast? And Ivan responds, quote, The
conversion of the world.
Many
of you have been to Ivans prayer group. Many of you have been on top of the
mountain during apparitions of the prayer group. Our Lady is always happy
there. Shes leading the prayer group and witnessing what should be done. And
whats the purpose of it? Its what She told Marija
June 25, 2007, God desires the
conversion of the entire world. How is it going to happen? Ivan just told us.
By our getting healed. How do we get healed? We join a prayer group. What do we
do in a prayer group? We have a good leader, a good coordinator, those who will
be followed and be strong and keep people on track and not get diverted in the
river thats flowing by into outlets weakening the river that was there that
turns to a trickle.
And
we see many prayer groups turn into that. They turn into a trickle going many
different directions. They did not have an identity. Whats their purpose? Our
purpose here was praying for the country, the United States of America.
Pre-Medjugorje! That was in my heart. Marija comes
here and we do four consecrations of the United States of America. She accepts
the consecration in 2008.
Marija
said after the apparition that Our Lady accepted the consecration of the United
States of America into Her hands. We had three more after that. On the third
consecration, Our Lady appears on July 3, 2012. We do another consecration to
continue to petition Our Lady. We had a goal. We had a cause. And Our Lady gives
a message and its very profound because it was our goal. We were consecrating
our country to heal our nation. We needed Her words. It took all those years,
all those prayers, all those novenas, people across the country, people praying
millions of patriotic rosaries, even in foreign countries.
And
after the apparition Maria says that Our Lady told us, Form and make prayer groups through which we will pray for your
healing and the healing of this nation to draw closer to God and to Me.
Yes, its simple, but its very profound. She said twice, healing. Healing for
what? Healing for you. What was that second healing for? For this nation. And
thats what Ivan was asked. What can we
do to be healed? And Ivan responds, Follow
the message and be part of a prayer group. Why? Because thats where it
starts. And the goal was for the healing of the United States of America.
Our
Lady wrote a story here for the whole world. Why does the United States of
America get such privilege? Because, to whom much is given, much is expected.
You go to the part of the world thats got the biggest sail for the wind to
blow through it, which Our Lady says, I
come in the wind, and change direction with it, and the rest of the world
will follow it.
If
we keep tumbling and following where were going, then the rest of the world
will go down. You want to change the world? You start with the most powerful
nation in the world and the most blessed nation even in history. Not just in
the world at this time, ever! So, we should see this
opportunity in the light of the quote, Time
is like a river. You cannot touch the water twice because the flow that has
passed will never pass again.
We
have an opportunity that if we dont grasp this, we dont touch it, it will
never come back. We have one shot, one touch, one chance. We will never have it
again. And were the only nation in the Medjugorje world, by the Queen of
Peace, in the last apparitions on earth, thats been given a message. Do we
deserve it? No. Strategically, is it important? Yes, because you go to the
witness. You go to the nation that can have an affect on all other nations.
Were
in perilous times. Were in serious moments. But if we think a nation and
global, thats not where its going to come from. Ivan was asked a question, Why has the Blessed Mother come? And
Ivan responds, The Blessed Mother has
been permitted by God to come here. Our Lady said in the Field, in the
first apparition, November 24, 1988, I
am here to help you! Ivan says She comes because God permitted Her to come
here.
Its
not by chance that Our Lady comes to our place and has apparitions in the
Bedroom. Thats not by chance. Its ordained. And its not by chance that Our
Lady decided to go out by the pine tree to have that apparition. Because She
foresaw 2012 and telling us where we would be over two decades later. She laid
it all out. We didnt see it. We didnt have the vision. She did. It was Her
path.
So,
he adds to coming here, quote, She knows
what is coming in the future. See, there it is. She saw everything. She
was laying seeds back in 1988 in preparation for the worlds direction that
needed to be changed through consecrations. And how to do it, form and make
prayer groups, etc. She knows what is
coming in the future. He continues, She
is calling all Gods children back on the path to Heaven. And She gave us
a path here.
Ivan
was asked about a question on August 15, 1988 when Our Lady appeared on Her
assumption, What did the Blessed Mother
say during the apparition last night? Ivan said, She wants everyone in the world to pray, especially for youth. She
wants us to talk to you, to guide them, and to bring them back to God.
This is pre-millennials. We see now the millennials where they are. They dont
think what we think. Theyre ready to accept Socialism. There is so much talk
about Socialism which doesnt work, its not Gods order, its disorder, and
its of satan. And most of the people for it are the
youth. So, here it is back in 1988, You
have to be praying for the youth to bring them back to God.
Ivan
is asked this question next, What should
young people do? Ivan says in response, The question should be, what should parents do? And he continues,
They should have more time for their
children, to give them love and guidance. They should pray together with their
children, communicate with their children, to solve problems together as a
family. He continues, Parents
should limit the freedom of children. Children should only be as free as they
are responsible. Wow. This is wisdom. This is somebody speaking about the
Virgin Mary.
I
was with Ivan several times in the choir loft, and he would write several times
after the apparitions. And I know its the teachings of Our Lady. And he knows
a lot about the families. Hes got a lot of wisdom. In this question that he
was asked, he continues, Parents are the
best ones to judge how responsible their children are. Not the teachers,
not the school systems, not the universities. Dont give the power of your
children over to these people! Especially universities.
Dont
send your children to universities! Im saying that. Im telling you its the
worst thing you could do to your children. Its a curse to them. The
universities are not the place for youth. The formation that you did give to
them, poor or good, is worsening them after they go to college. You dont agree
with that? Thats fine. Ive had multiple people come to me, The worst thing I did was send my children
to university. Im not saying that to be right. I know Im right. None of
my children went to university. I drilled it into them, You dont need that. You can do anything you want. And all of
them are successful.
Ivan
continues with this answer, Parents have
the authority from God to set limits on their childrens freedom. Children
are free to do everything practically now. You say not really. Yes. They have
their mind open to a world that opens up to any
question, anything they want to see, anything out of your ability to restrict
their freedom when theyre on the cell phones and computers. Total access to
the world, to evil, to sin, to formation, things that destroy them, things that
destroy nations! You think were where we are just by this happening? It takes
up prayer time. Ive said many times if we just pray 1% of the time that people
are on cell phones and computers, the world would change. Just 1%.
So, Ivans
real clear. Parents have the authority from God. Its not from the universities.
Its not from your school teachers. Its not from the priests, even. Its the parents
that have the authority from God to set limits on their childrens freedom!
I had
a real difficult year one year in my business as far as business. It was financially
doing great, but I was so busy throughout the summer that we couldnt go anywhere.
This was pre-Medjugorje. And, in October, I decided to take them down to Florida.
I went in and told the principle they wouldnt be at school next week. And she told
me, You cant do that! I said, What? She says, You cant just take your children out of school. And I told her, I
said, Im going to Florida next week, and
Im taking my children. You cant do that! Shes telling me I dont have
authority. I said, You dont have authority
over my authority. And, I had this in me, in my heart, before I heard Ivan
say this or before Medjugorje. I dont have to get permission from somebody.
Do you
want your kids and you want to do something with them, you have the right to do
that! But now the laws are so much, truant officers and all this. Its garbage!
You have authority to know whats best for your family. She said, Ill report you. I said, Go ahead. And we walked out. And we did
and nothing happened. Im just giving an example.
You have to stand up. You have to be courageous.
Nobody has authority over your children. You do. Ivan is asked a question about
this authority that you have as a parent, and he answers about that and much more.
It is difficult with words to describe how
much the Blessed Mother loves us. She is worried about the whole world. Our
Ladys not supposed to worry, and yet Shes a Mother. And its not a simple worry,
its not an anxiety worry, in other words, its concern. Maybe Ivan said the wrong
word. But She is worried, he says, about the whole world. He says, People talk so much about nuclear war, but theres
nothing much that anybody can do to stop that. In other words, that was in
1988, and everybody was worried about that.
And so,
Ivans asked another question. Does the Blessed
Mother speak about that? He responds this, People do not need philosophy. Wow. I remember John Paul adding a
fourth year for seminarians of philosophy. When I heard that I said, Why? I read about the Greek philosophers.
I like some of the things they say, but Im self-teaching myself and passing it
on to my kids.
And this
quote of time is like a river is from 2,400 years ago. But what they go through
the universities and regurgitate what they teach, you dont want that philosophy.
Its something different because these philosophers said basic things, common sense
things, about simple living life.
So, Ivan
says, We dont need that philosophy.
And the question comes back, What do they
need? They need to live a simple life! Thats the family. Our life is complex.
Society is complex. Its so integrated. Its so busy. Its so non-producing holiness.
The question arises again, Does the Blessed
Mother say we dont need philosophy? He says, The Blessed Mother says that it is good to learn, but sometimes learning
can cause harm. Wow. Thats very profound. Because we think we have to learn in the books. We have to
get PhDs. We have to get these These things mean nothing
in the end.
Another
question comes to him. What is the Blessed
Mother telling us to do? She is calling us to live a simple peaceful life. We
must be careful not to be seduced by the attractions of the world. And hes
questioned again, Does the Blessed Mother
really say that? She says that much of the world suffers from an illness today
and we all need to be cured. Responds back a question again. What illness? Think right now, you ask
yourself, what is the world, what is your family, what illness do you need to be
cured from? Think this out, before I even tell you what Ivan says. Contemplate it.
Is it
cancer? I would say its cancer, but I wouldnt say it
in the disease of cancer. We have cancer in the world. What is cancer about? Something
that spreads, something thats not curable. How do we cure it? More so, what is
the illness? He answers, The illness is called
materialism. See, its real simple. Its like life.
Dont be complex. Dont be a philosopher and come up with all these complex scenarios.
And like the professors in the universities, weve got this, weve got that.
What is the illness? hes asked. The illness is called
materialism. And then hes asked, Why
is it an illness? And he responds, Because
it causes blindness. Materialism, he says, makes money a god. When money is a god, you cant see anything else. You
are blind. Very profound. Im giving you a whole teaching through Ivan, through
the Blessed Mother, through the prayer groups, through what happened in the Field
of what the illness is and how we be healed. Everythings right here in this broadcast.
And so,
the last question comes to this, Has the
Blessed Mother told you that? speaking about money as god. You cant see anything
else and youre blind. And Ivan answers that, Yes. In other words, yes, Our Lady has told me that. He says, Yes, this makes Her very sorrowful. What?
Materialism. Continuing his answer, We need
money because we need to buy certain things. But we should use money only for basic
needs. Which brings us to what we started out with our prayer group here.
And my
first calling was get away from cash, get away from money.
How do you do that? You have to stay in the world. You
have to build another system. You have
to go agrarian. You have to get seed from a tomato
that grew last year and next season plant 20 plants, and you dont need cash to
go buy it. And you know one of the other benefits? You dont have to pay taxes on
those tomatoes. If you go to the grocery store and your county or your city is 10%
tax for $100, you pay ten bucks taxes. We save that!
And from
there, we get a pig! And from there we get a cow. And from there we get chickens.
And we have all those taxes we dont have to pay. And we dont need cash for it
because we grow grass. Cow eats grass. We eat cow. Its a simple life. Its beautiful.
Full of consolations, hard work, difficulties with the weather where we cant manage
that. We cant orchestrate it. Which only brings the blessings of what we need to
grow these things or the animals or the plants is through prayer!
In other
words, we depend on God! We dont depend on the dollar. We dont go take the money
and get a pay check and go to the grocery store. Yes, we still have some dependence
on those things, but we live a blessed life. And theres consolation at eating from
your own table. And yes, you cant do it overnight! Weve been hitting this 30-plus years.
Our Lady
has given us A Way of Life in a New Time
which is healing. Our youth grow up in a beautiful way, a hard-working way, but
at the same time, we have a double cross in the sense its for our labors, is we
have a mission were given. All that I just covered that youve heard comes back
to the series of questions that Ivan had, where I ended last question, We should use money only for basic needs,
to the next question which I began the broadcast with. What can we do to be healed?
So, I
end this where I began this which is at the end of the interview. What can we do to be healed? You just heard
everything. Its that simple. Its what our Blessed Mother said, to be part of a
prayer group. Because She wants prayer groups. Not only here, and Im speaking right
here physically at Caritas, or Medjugorje on the mountain, but throughout the whole
world.
Therefore,
its important for you to form a prayer group. If you dont feel like you can lead
one, look for someone that could. Order 100 copies of this broadcast,
pass it out to your parishioners, friends, whoever. And solicit people who would
join together to make a prayer group. Youve got to be
a strong leader. You dont do it in a democracy way, you do it in a prayerful way,
and fasting. And dont just initiate and expect things are going to work. satan hates prayer groups. hes heard Our Lady say, This is the healing of the world.
So, youre
going to have attacks, youre going to have division. And you may be strong. You
may have 50 people and then suddenly youre down to 20 people. Thats part of the
betting. One third of the angels were thrown out of Heaven. Jesus disciples all
left Him with only the 12 after the teaching of the Eucharist. This is part of the
walk. But you be strong, and you pray.
Once
you make an initiative to form a prayer group, you may get bad actors and good actors,
but all of it has purpose. Our Lady just recently said February 2, 2019, My children, you are not united by chance
So, you may have actors in there that cause problems. You may have to be strong
enough to just kick them out.
And so,
you dont misunderstand what She just says. She repeats in the sentence right after
that, following, The Heavenly Father does
not unite anyone by chance Every prayer group has to
be sifted. Every prayer group has to be tested. And, it
may be that the leader has to remove someone. Because you
have to be one mind, one heart. Not people of two minds.
She said this in the same message, unfortunately,
many of my children do not want to hear me; many of my children are of two minds
How do you become one mind? Get rid of those who are not in union. Its difficult.
It takes courage to do that. Ive had to do this in the mission. Its not a pleasant
thing. But were of one mind and one heart.
And if
you start that prayer group and it heals the world, its right there. Because your
world, as Ive said many times, is your goings and your comings throughout the day,
who youre in contact with. And if prayer groups are all over the world, theyre
all over the regions, that little cell combined with cells across the world will
heal the world.
And so it is, its not so complex, its not treaties, its not even
through the presidents, its through the prayer to get the grace to pick the presidents
and our leaders. And the first leader is Mom and Dad. They have total authority
over their world. Dont vacate it. Dont reassign it. Its your responsibility.
Restrict the freedom of your children in an open way where they dont feel restricted.
How do you do that? Get as close as you can to the soil, outside in Gods nature.
We wish
you Our Lady. We love you. Goodbye.
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legal, accounting, or other professional advice. Since your situation is
fact-dependent, you may wish to additionally seek the services of an appropriately
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